Corona virus and its effects on GLA

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Nobody but nobody is saying carry on regardless. That said business leaders and their staff need clarity, timescales and workable solutions. They should be included along with other experts who make these sometimes unworkable and unachievable decisions.

Businesses do not run on fresh air. They cannot simply magic millions out from thin air; unlike some fiscal authorities. The plain fact is with vaccines kicking in, R rates decreasing and once the majority of folks have been given jags then you can’t keep everyone in lockdown Ad Infinitum.

The best way forward is to prepare this path out of lockdown now, not simply yet another week, month, six months...... it’s vital to the economy, our mental health, our family wealth and to fund all those public services which all our hard pressed tax payers will be tasked to pay for.

The simple truth is that it’s not just the data which counts- the dates are vitally important too.
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just wait till the kids get back to school. Within a Month the curve will once agian be upwards. Just sayin..
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hads wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:40 am just wait till the kids get back to school. Within a Month the curve will once agian be upwards. Just sayin..
So what do you suggest? I say vaccinate all teachers, police, firemen/women, all those serving and dealing directly with the public. We now have a failed generation; blended learning, no exams and what qualifications will they leave school with?
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atuk wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:39 am Nobody but nobody is saying carry on regardless. That said business leaders and their staff need clarity, timescales and workable solutions. They should be included along with other experts who make these sometimes unworkable and unachievable decisions.

Businesses do not run on fresh air. They cannot simply magic millions out from thin air; unlike some fiscal authorities. The plain fact is with vaccines kicking in, R rates decreasing and once the majority of folks have been given jags then you can’t keep everyone in lockdown Ad Infinitum.

The best way forward is to prepare this path out of lockdown now, not simply yet another week, month, six months...... it’s vital to the economy, our mental health, our family wealth and to fund all those public services which all our hard pressed tax payers will be tasked to pay for.

The simple truth is that it’s not just the data which counts- the dates are vitally important too.
As has been seen, it’s quite unpredictable. I’m sure hoping the more we are vaccinated the less unpredictable it will be until the virus is defeated. We’ll soon be getting some indicative dates which will be back to the tier levels and all will be subject to change depending on the situation but it’s never going to be good enough for any commercial venture vested interest when public health is the overriding priority.
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atuk wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:43 am
hads wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:40 am just wait till the kids get back to school. Within a Month the curve will once agian be upwards. Just sayin..
So what do you suggest? I say vaccinate all teachers, police, firemen/women, all those serving and dealing directly with the public. We now have a failed generation; blended learning, no exams and what qualifications will they leave school with?
With respect, “failed generation” could be a bit OTT. The youngsters will still go to Uni or whatever career path they were going to take. As long as their family has survived, the pandemic will have no lasting effect on their futures. Teachers are doing an outstanding job.
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Clive wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:03 am [quote=atuk post_id=3177 time=<a href="tel:1613558604">1613558604</a> user_id=75]
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just wait till the kids get back to school. Within a Month the curve will once agian be upwards. Just sayin..
So what do you suggest? I say vaccinate all teachers, police, firemen/women, all those serving and dealing directly with the public. We now have a failed generation; blended learning, no exams and what qualifications will they leave school with?
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With respect, “failed generation” could be a bit OTT. The youngsters will still go to Uni or whatever career path they were going to take. As long as their family has survived, the pandemic will have no lasting effect on their futures. Teachers are doing an outstanding job.
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I agree teachers are doing a fantastic job: my cousin’s daughter is one of them! What I’m saying is that with no proper exams, added to the stramash of last year’s results fiasco, what exactly do these qualifications represent and how will potential employers view them? I can see the situation where folks leave school to go to college to beef up subjects where breadth and depth are found lacking. Teachers can only do so much and I’m sure they would rather teach a class in class rather than online. It’s not the way to go.

On a brighter note I get my vaccination next Tuesday. Hopefully onwards and upwards as I can’t feel any Don in the depths than I am right now.
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Teachers behind retail workers i am afraid ... i deal with 10000 people each week , teachers moan and complain .. we dont but wasnt for us things will be loads worse ...
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Ekally1 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:47 pm Teachers behind retail workers i am afraid ... i deal with 10000 people each week , teachers moan and complain .. we dont but wasnt for us things will be loads worse ...
Hope you’re okay during all this. Personally I think all public facing staff should be given priority for immunisation.

Anyway just read the recent vote ofNoConfidence regards SQAand not being fit for purpose.
Rather back up my earlier post regards this. One difficult question- if they’re not doing the day job and can’t produce new criteria then why aren’t they placed on furlough? Or dies that only apply to airline,airport, handling agents, travel and tourism and hospitality? Oh the joys of Teflon protection in the Public Sector and their large pension pots to boot!
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Ekally1 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:47 pm Teachers behind retail workers i am afraid ... i deal with 10000 people each week , teachers moan and complain .. we dont but wasnt for us things will be loads worse ...
My own personal opinion, teachers are the most protected species in the UK today. They want a pay rise, they get it. See there near 10% pay rise just over a year ago. They have the nuclear option of striking and forcing everyone to deal with their own little cherubs. No other public sector job has quite the same leverage. So the shout, stamp their feet and get what they want.

Some teachers have put inbherculean efforts some have done very little. In comparison to some parts of the public sector (emergency services for one) teachers have been at low risk of the virus.
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atuk wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:44 pm I agree teachers are doing a fantastic job: my cousin’s daughter is one of them! What I’m saying is that with no proper exams, added to the stramash of last year’s results fiasco, what exactly do these qualifications represent and how will potential employers view them? I can see the situation where folks leave school to go to college to beef up subjects where breadth and depth are found lacking. Teachers can only do so much and I’m sure they would rather teach a class in class rather than online. It’s not the way to go.

On a brighter note I get my vaccination next Tuesday. Hopefully onwards and upwards as I can’t feel any Don in the depths than I am right now.
In-school education for those not already attending begins a phased return on Monday. Not sure what you’re trying to say about the pandemic versus education. No one thinks the disruption has been ideal. But most agree the risk is real.

On the matter of prioritising different employment sectors - it would be great if we had an instantaneous unlimited supply of vaccination but we don’t. All of the people on the different deserving employment sectors, which amounts to everyone if you ask them, will get the vaccine as their age group gets covered.

Good news that yours is imminent.
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